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#147290 - 25th Jan 2007 9:33am Wanted : Digital Camera
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Up to now Ive been using my phones camera for any pics that Ive needed, but now think its time I got something of a bit better quality.

TBH I know pretty much nothing about digital cameras, apart from their resolution, memory size etc, and a few other basics.

Now Im no David Bailey, so I dont need something all singing all dancing, but do need good quality pics (4megapix+) zoom, Video capability, and adjustable exposure times for night shots.

Anyone??

Cheers


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#147293 - 25th Jan 2007 10:19am Re: Wanted : Digital Camera [Re: StuyMac]
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Go for a slimline one stuy,
this way you can keep it on you at all times.

When you want to control night exposure times
your looking at expensive, but most will give
you anywhere upto 7 seconds, its the more than
7 seconds and you will be paying for it.

3 3million is more than ample if your keep the price down.

Check out the fuji, cannon, camera's.

Pop onto argos web site for some idea's smile

Hope that helps.
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#147295 - 25th Jan 2007 10:23am Re: Wanted : Digital Camera [Re: Mark]
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Well, I was looking at something like this.

Slimline would be great, but not essential, I still have my phone for any pics I need on the move, so as long as its not to bulky....
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#147297 - 25th Jan 2007 10:43am Re: Wanted : Digital Camera [Re: StuyMac]
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But the one you listed isnt there, so its already
out of date, which isnt a bad thing ( cheaper )
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#147321 - 25th Jan 2007 4:24pm Re: Wanted : Digital Camera [Re: Mark]
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Some of the Kodak cheapo camera's are rated by the digital camera magazines (yeah I read them when im in my dentist lol) as good as far more expensive alternative makes.

My mums old 3.2MP Kodak cam which ost her a measly £99 two years ago more then proves this, it trounces even modern day alternatives from the likes of Fuji for image quality and defenition. And of course Kodak's are almost always far superior at colour re-production.

The best value camera atm HAS to be the Kodak Z710, not only is a high end processing camera, with 7MP maximum resolution, but it has a SCHNEIDER-KREUZNACH 10x optical zoom lens - in the world of professional photography, Shneider are ranked way way above even the likes of Carl Ziess for the optics.

The z710's are going for around the £160 mark online, so there really isnt any point in going for a bog standard £100 camera, when you can get one with extremely high quality (near professional) optics for just a few quid more to be honest.

I am very interested in photography as a hobby, and have made good use of my mums Kodak for the last couple of years, but I will be getting a Z710 this summer. Oh and it also does VGA video recording, which is near DVD quality (640x480), most camera's can't record better then QCIF. Not exactly what I want from a camera, but its always an added bonus.

It takes SD cards, and with 2GB cards going for £10 online atm...

Don't be fooled by the megapixel war Stuy, a 10MP camera is very rarely better then a 3.2MP camera, most high pixel camera's use techniques like interpollation to increase their MP count anyway, which causes reductions in overall image quality.

Unless you want to take photo's and print them as posters, then you will never need to be taking more then 3MP shots.

Concentrate on the quality of the optics rather then the megapixel count, its just a number that brands are ramming at the consumer to sell camera's.

The future of digital camera's is actually 1 and 2MP cams that will far outdo the high MP jobs of today, due to their ultra efficiency. ATM manufacuter's make cams that do 5 - 10MP, but around 90% of the pixel are actually wasted due to the way they work and the low quality of the optics and processing.

HTH smile

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#147339 - 25th Jan 2007 7:43pm Re: Wanted : Digital Camera [Re: MattLFC]
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Funny you should mention Fujifilm cameras as thats what I ended up getting.

The finepix E550, Less than £100 and very good reviews about quality and VFM smile

http://www.reevoo.com/reviews/ean/4902520267634

...and thats just one...
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#147343 - 25th Jan 2007 8:13pm Re: Wanted : Digital Camera [Re: MattLFC]
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Originally Posted By: MattyC
Don't be fooled by the megapixel war Stuy, a 10MP camera is very rarely better then a 3.2MP camera, most high pixel camera's use techniques like interpollation to increase their MP count anyway, which causes reductions in overall image quality.

Unless you want to take photo's and print them as posters, then you will never need to be taking more then 3MP shots.


Interesting, I never knew that.

I've been interested in a camera for a while, something a bit better than camera phone pictures lol

Looks like a good buy that Stuy, good to see no bad reviews of it.

Were you not after zoom features? Just thought as it only has 4x optical zoom.

I'd go for something with more optical zoom I guess, as digital zoom often gives crap quality through image processing by the camera.
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#147351 - 25th Jan 2007 8:37pm Re: Wanted : Digital Camera [Re: BMW Joe]
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I had an early Fine pix camera, battery hungry but pics were decent. Now have a kodak C310, and i can't really fault it!

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#147355 - 25th Jan 2007 11:40pm Re: Wanted : Digital Camera [Re: CustomIce]
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Originally Posted By: BeemerRacer28
I'd go for something with more optical zoom I guess, as digital zoom often gives crap quality through image processing by the camera.

Yes, you make a very good point there Joe. The Kodak Z710 I have been touting lol is pretty unique in that it has a 10x optical zoom.

Don't even bother using digital zoom, its nigh upon useless. If you want to zoom, its much better to cut part of the image and increase its size on a PC afterwards, then to rely on the camera processor to do the job. A pc digital zoom is always a lot clearer and better clarity then one done on a camera, due to limitations with the camera speed, onboard zooming software, memory etc...

To zoom, its either optical or none at all for me. For a cam without optical, just use ya PC hehe.

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#147365 - 26th Jan 2007 12:59am Re: Wanted : Digital Camera [Re: MattLFC]
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ive got a cannon powershot A410 or somethin,4 megapixels.I like it,not sure if it has a "night mode" or adjustable exposure,surely it has.......

Try clearance-comet.co.uk mate. Ex display stock,cheap as chips
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#147858 - 3rd Feb 2007 12:57am Re: Wanted : Digital Camera [Re: StuyMac]
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i am selling my kodat 4m pix digi cam 1 week only mint cost me £100 will sell £45
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#147859 - 3rd Feb 2007 1:39am Re: Wanted : Digital Camera [Re: markeee]
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Does it have optical zoom markeee?

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#147950 - 5th Feb 2007 1:44pm Re: Wanted : Digital Camera [Re: MattLFC]
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sure does

CCD resolution 4.23 MP (2408x1758 pixels)
Image resolution 4.0 MP (2304x1728 pixels)
Picture quality 4.0 MP - best (print, enlargement)
3.5 MP - best (optimized ratio for 4"x6" prints, 3:2)
2.1 MP - better (small print)
1.1 MP - good (e-mail)

Zoom 15X
4Xoptical zoom (5.5-21.8 mm - equivalent to 33-132 mm in 35 mm equivalent)
3.8X Advanced Digital Zoom

Auto focus High-speed, low light auto-focus with selectable modes: multi-zone, center-zone
Focus distance wide - 50 cm (19.7 in.) to infinity
tele - 75 cm (29.5 in.) to infinity

Display LCD - 1.8" (46 mm) 134K pixel indoor/outdoor display
Viewfinder Real-image optical viewfinder
Aperture wide - f/2.8-5.5; tele - f/5.0-8.8
Shutter speed 4-1/2200 seconds
ISO equivalent Automatic - 100-200; Manual - 100, 200, 400
White balance auto, daylight, tungsten, fluorescent
Flash mode automatic, fill, red-eye, off
Flash range wide - 0.5-5.1 m (1.6-16.7 ft.); tele - 0.8-2.6 m (2.6-8.5 ft.)
Self-timer 10 seconds
Performance Features
Scene modes automatic, sport, portrait, night, landscape, close-up, movie
Color modes color, black and white, sepia
Macro/close-up mode wide - 10-60 cm (3.9-23.6 in.); tele - 25-85 cm (9.8-33.5 in.)
Burst modes 3 fps, up to 6 pictures

Light metering method automatic- TTL-AE matrix metering; selectable - multi-pattern, center-weighted, center-spot
Exposure compensation +/- 2.0 EV in 1/2 step increments
Exposure control program AE, shutter priority, aperture priority
Movie mode continuous digital video with audio capture, audio playback on camera
Movie image resolution 320x240 pixels at 15 fps

Movie length limited by capacity of external memory card
Smart and Simple Features
Capture mode capture always ready
Auto-orientation auto picture rotation
Dedicated buttons delete, review and share
Video out NTSC, PAL (user-selectable)
Software KODAK EASYSHARE Software
Interface Dock Compatibility - KODAK EASYSHARE Camera Dock 6000 and KODAK EASYSHARE Printer Dock 6000
Additional Features
Storage 16 MB internal memoryMMC/SD card expansion slot
Power options optional KODAK EASYSHARE 6000 Sreies Docks with rechargeable battery pack (in-camera charging); 2 AA KODAK MAX Digital Camera Batteries; 2 AA lithium or Ni-MH batteries or 1 CRV3 lithium battery; 3 volt adapter
Image file format Still - JPEG/EXIF v2.2; Movie - Quicktime
Interface USB 2.0 compliant, KODAK EASYSHARE 6000 Series Docks; audio/video connectors
Lens protection built-in lens barrier
Tripod mount 1/4 in. standard
Weight without batteries - 220 g (7.8 oz)

Dimensions WxHxD: 109x64.5x38.2 mm (4.3x2.5x1.5 in.)

Warranty
1 year
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#147967 - 5th Feb 2007 6:08pm Re: Wanted : Digital Camera [Re: markeee]
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Whats the model number and condition of the camera matey?

Cos unless Stuy wants it (I hear he got a new cam now, but as its his wanted thread its only right he should get first refusal), I will probably have it off you.

Thanks!

smile

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#147985 - 5th Feb 2007 8:10pm Re: Wanted : Digital Camera [Re: MattLFC]
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Be my guest Matty, Im sorted smile
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