WikiWirral values you and your opinion.
Forum Statistics
Forums65
Topics76,352
Posts1,033,281
Members14,560
Most Online16,551
Feb 2nd, 2024
Who's Online Now
9 members (ArranGirl13, 3 invisible), 8,070 guests, and 433 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Top Posters
sunnyside 45,164
MattLFC 22,315
Mark 21,269
granny 17,788
_Ste_ 16,345
Newest Members
Kalena1962, rattus, Lisrush, Emotecreative, ArranGirl13
14,560 Registered Users
New General Forums
New Wirral History
Tall Brick Chimneys
by diggingdeeper - 16th Mar 2024 11:56am
D.I.Y. / Building Shop
by mharford91 - 3rd Mar 2024 8:53pm
1970's Murder in Central Park, Wallasey
by cutespam - 4th Aug 2018 10:28am
Old Hall in Higher Bebington
by Rhoobarb - 25th May 2010 5:55pm
Oleo Works
by Ducko - 14th May 2008 3:09pm
Top Posters(30 Days)
granny 14
casper 13
bri445 4
Topic Replies
What song are you listening to?
by diggingdeeper - 28th Mar 2024 6:06pm
Facial recognition coming in supermarkets?
by diggingdeeper - 27th Mar 2024 3:50pm
Bolts at Bebington Road
by diggingdeeper - 27th Mar 2024 2:33am
Hot Spot Chippie Broadway
by Excoriator - 26th Mar 2024 7:57pm
Tall Brick Chimneys
by diggingdeeper - 26th Mar 2024 5:43pm
Lost river (Well, brook really)
by diggingdeeper - 26th Mar 2024 3:09am
Old Hall in Higher Bebington
by diggingdeeper - 24th Mar 2024 5:58pm
Netflix 3 Body Problem.
by BultacoAstro - 22nd Mar 2024 8:04am
Wisper electric bike. 36v .
by Dilly - 21st Mar 2024 7:36pm
March
M T W T F S S
1 2 3
4 5 6 7 8 9 10
11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 21 22 23 24
25 26 27 28 29 30 31
Top Likes Received (30 Days)
Kylix 1
cools 1
Top Likes Received
bert1 14
Mark 4
granny 3
casper 3
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
#144509 8th Dec 2006 11:24pm
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,855
krisGTi Offline OP
Forum Master
OP Offline
Forum Master
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,855
does ny1 no if i can get a cd-r that has 120 min rec on it insted of the standed 80 min? an were i could get some from. tar


[Linked Image]
Google Ads
krisGTi #144510 8th Dec 2006 11:26pm
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 21,269
Likes: 4
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 21,269
Likes: 4
Problem could be that your CD Writer may not support
that format.

What you trying to fit on a 120 or 80 ?

There is DVD discs too?

Mark #144511 8th Dec 2006 11:30pm
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,855
krisGTi Offline OP
Forum Master
OP Offline
Forum Master
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,855
av got sone songs a want 2 put on disc but they are longer then 80 min's an it just keeps sayin that the disc is to small for wat am tryin 2 put on it


[Linked Image]
krisGTi #144512 8th Dec 2006 11:33pm
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 21,269
Likes: 4
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 21,269
Likes: 4
Rip them to MP3 via windows mwdia player.

Go into option >>> RIP and choose mp3

Mark #144514 8th Dec 2006 11:38pm
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,855
krisGTi Offline OP
Forum Master
OP Offline
Forum Master
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,855
thats wat a did 1st an then when a put it in me cd player n me car it wount work. thats the only reason a want 2 put it on cd so a can listen 2 to in the car


[Linked Image]
krisGTi #144517 8th Dec 2006 11:45pm
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 21,269
Likes: 4
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 21,269
Likes: 4
Ok

1. Rip them to mp3
2. Use nero to burn them into a RAW format.


But only select about 8 songs, as it will just about fill the disc.

Then it sould work.

I think in nero you may have to use the TRACK option
which is in the options somewhere, i havnt used it
for so long, i just remember it being there,
in version 6.5 or somthing.

Hope that helps.

Mark #144520 8th Dec 2006 11:56pm
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,855
krisGTi Offline OP
Forum Master
OP Offline
Forum Master
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,855
tar webby


[Linked Image]
krisGTi #144521 9th Dec 2006 12:02am
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,899
Forum Master
Offline
Forum Master
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,899
Is your car stereo MP3 compatable?


My website: www.TeamFord.co.uk
Dazza #144522 9th Dec 2006 12:11am
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,855
krisGTi Offline OP
Forum Master
OP Offline
Forum Master
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,855
dont think so


[Linked Image]
Dazza #144524 9th Dec 2006 12:25am
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 22,315
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 22,315
First of all, even I dont make sense of what you are saying to do there webby? Convert them to MP3 then make them RAW format? What is RAW format? Whats the 8 tracks about lol, how longs a piece of string hehe!

CD players read CDFS and CDDA (I suppose you could add CDDAT, but although its based on CDDA, its not standard and not read by all CD players, although it is a hybrid technology). CDDA is the most common format as it complies to red book standards and 44,100Khz with 16 bit sampling at a bit rate of 1411Kbps. Ive never heard of RAW?

To answer the question Kris, no you can't get 120minute CD's, UNLESS you have a limited edition Sony DDCD player in your car and a DDCD writer. These allow upto 150 minutes of audio/1.3GB of data, but they are purple book standards and are incompatible with most red book CD players. They were made in the late 90's, but were not very common at all(although I do seem to remember Sony were trying to push it and practically every CD writer they made until about 2003 supported this format).

With regards to standard everyday CD's, you can get upto 99 minutes CD's (I have a couple here), but they require you to overburn, and anything past about 92 minutes can not usually be read by a standard CD player. Even my Technics CD player struggles past 93 minutes.

When overburning, you are writing further out on the disc then most CD players can read. You are essentially writing on the "lead out" part of the disc, and this means it can cause the disc to be completely unreadable as sometimes its cant "lead out" to finalize the CD, and without this, the TOC is corrupted.

The best advice to you is to get an MP3/WMA CD player and then just convert your CD's to MP3 using something like dbpoweramp or similar.

Its best to get a Panasonic, Pioneer or JVC as these have licenses to use the WMA format, which comes in VERY handy with downloaded music.

There are some players hitting the market which support MP3Pro, but im not sure how expensive these would be.

A standard MP3/WMA head unit would cost way less then £100 nowadays and would save you a lot of hassle and you can throw upto 10 cd's on a single disc. Also, they cope with overburnt CD's better as they read CDFS as opposed to CDDA, and this requires less lead out anyway.

So to round it up, no you can't get 120 minute CD's, 99 minute are kinda hit and miss, and my advice would be to get a MP3/WMA head unit when you can afford one. Until then, its far simpler to just use the CD's as they are hehe.

smile

MattLFC #144525 9th Dec 2006 12:40am
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 21,269
Likes: 4
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 21,269
Likes: 4
CD players read CDFS and CDDA. CDDA

Is what Nero Calls RAW

If you copy a Orignal CD via Nero you use the RAW
format then Old Hifi's etc will play them.

example

mp3 song = 3mb
RAW = 30mb

(Typically matty not always)

So selecting about 8 songs will keep him well under the 700mb max.

You could go about 12 but it all depends upon the length of
the song, so as a giude to save NERO saying at the very
end !!! NOT ENOUGH SPACE

Use my guide.

That's the english version for you kris smile

It is a pain, but can be done, as i used to do it
when mp3 players werent availble in the car smile

Mark #144526 9th Dec 2006 12:49am
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 22,315
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 22,315
Ive just fired up Nero, and in standard mode, it makes no mention of "RAW". This is in standard mode, not Express. Just a case of select "audio cd", then drag and drop MP3 files, and then Nero encodes to CDDA on the fly, again without mention of RAW (it also doesnt mention CDDA, but this is what it will be encoding to either way, well its actually encoding to CDDAT, but this doesnt make a difference as its hybrid).

CDFS and CDDA are "not" the same format, so RAW couldnt account for both. CDDA/CDDAT is red book "only", whereas CDFS complies with red book, white book, yellow book, Mt Reiner and 9660 and maybe a few propiertary formats as well??

smile

MattLFC #144527 9th Dec 2006 1:53am
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 21,269
Likes: 4
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 21,269
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by webby
i havnt used it
for so long


RAW was a term used to burn to Audio CD's
As in the Raw data.

Do a google search you will find refrence to
Nero and RAW for Audio CD's.

Yes modern Nero 5.5+ offers an easier solution,
but i havent needed to do it that way for years.

1. Use nero in Audio Mode
2. Drag your files over.
3. Keep an eye on how much space is being used.
4. Burn.
5. play them in your car. (no need for a new head unit).

Hope that helps you chris happy

Mark #144528 9th Dec 2006 2:02am
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 22,315
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 22,315
I didnt say he "needed" a new head unit... I suggested to think about getting a new (or indeed second hand) head unit which supports MP3/WMA, as he quite clearly wanted to have 120 minutes of music on a single disc, something which can't be done using standard CD's, but which can quite easily using MP3 cd's.

smile

MattLFC #144549 9th Dec 2006 5:03pm
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 12,369
Likes: 1
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 12,369
Likes: 1
I sent you a PM last night kris saying basically what matty said in his first post (only a simpler version lol geeky matty learn )

I remember NERO when you had to write it that data as RAW. Nero has changed a lot since then and is a lot easier to use.


Autowirral.co.uk - The Northwest's Biggest forum of Motoring Enthusiasts.
Cruisewirral.com - The Northwest's Biggest forum of Modified Car Enthusiasts.
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  Mark 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Facial recognition coming in supermarkets?
by Excoriator - 27th Mar 2024 10:52am
Hot Spot Chippie Broadway
by Excoriator - 26th Mar 2024 7:57pm
Bolts at Bebington Road
by Excoriator - 23rd Mar 2024 9:48am
Netflix 3 Body Problem.
by BultacoAstro - 22nd Mar 2024 8:04am
Tall Brick Chimneys
by diggingdeeper - 16th Mar 2024 11:56am
For Sale & Free
Wisper electric bike. 36v .
by Dilly - 21st Mar 2024 7:36pm
This is Elvis
by GingerTom - 17th Mar 2024 2:37pm
Member Spotlight
Dilly
Dilly
wallasey
Posts: 8,973
Joined: July 2011
Today's Birthdays
There are no members with birthdays on this day.
New Wirral Info
Facial recognition coming in supermarkets?
by Excoriator - 27th Mar 2024 10:52am
Hot Spot Chippie Broadway
by Excoriator - 26th Mar 2024 7:57pm
Bolts at Bebington Road
by Excoriator - 23rd Mar 2024 9:48am
Get your Money Tree ready
by keef666 - 22nd Mar 2023 12:27pm
Restaurant/pub with outdoor seating - Bromborough
by CarterUSM - 7th Aug 2020 7:59pm
News : New Topics
Gaza
by diggingdeeper - 29th Oct 2023 9:28am
Lost river (Well, brook really)
by Excoriator - 10th Sep 2019 8:50am
New Enthusiast Forums
Netflix 3 Body Problem.
by BultacoAstro - 22nd Mar 2024 8:04am
Xbox
by TudorBlue - 3rd Mar 2024 8:48pm
Wiper mechanism needed
by Peter0787 - 20th Feb 2024 4:07pm
What song are you listening to?
by - 24th Jun 2007 9:06am
Popular Topics(Views)
5,069,758 WIKI WALK CHAT
4,013,817 Spotted!
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5