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matty the tyres on the evo are toyo r888's which are a road legal tyre, look on the vid and you will see a disc on the windscreen. i'll let you tell what it is it begins with a T

just to point out there is a fiesta with 640bhp, Pat dorans Rallycross car.


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Originally Posted by clj85
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Its not as fast as it sounds.


That proves you havnt a clue.
0 - 60 in 3.1 seconds with a headwind and a badly slipping clutch is NOTHING to be taken lightly. This can is capable of doing it in LOW 2 seconds.

Oh, and it is road legal in everyway.


his old evo did a 2.6 but was not an official timing device.

i can't wait till the Reyland Escort is setup and see how quick that is, and as the old reyland escort did a 2.89 0-60(maybe quicker) i can pretty much guess the evo has a worthy contender.


From what i have read this will be quicker.

That must be such a rush driving that thing.


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matty,redline,santa pod,and even norris designs have NOTHING to gain from lying about the figures!! weather its 3 seconds to sixty or under 2 it doesnt matter,the fact remains its a fantastic car that WILL SELL MAGAZINES and will get ND new customers etc....

I'll agree to disagree with u,u are clearly stuck in ur ways to not believe claims that are heavily backed up. fair play guiness book of records wud be more proof but the DATRON data and santa pods timing and velocity info are proof enough for me


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Taken from another site:

With all the camber wound off, new Nitto tyres and a new triple plate clutch (you may remember the last one expired last time he went to Santa Pod last week), Simon was hoping for some good results, i.e. the low 9s/high 8s he wants the car to do, but grip was low, thanks to the cold weather, and once again there was a 15-20mph head wind.

The clutch gave up, again (739lbft would do that to me too ), but the transmission held up and these are the results:

Results were;

60 Feet: 1.734 Seconds
Best ET: 9.556 Seconds
Best Terminal: 158.31 Mph
Best 1/8th Terminal: 126.78 Mph
0-100Mph: 4.95 Seconds
0-150Mph: 8.83 Seconds

Or it may just be a bunch of lies...


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Just to add, 4.95secs to 100 is amazing

A Hayabusa does it in 5.3secs

Norris times:
0-10mph 0.565sec
0-20mph 1.056sec
0-30mph 1.551sec
0-40mph 1.952sec
0-50mph 2.650sec
0-60mph 3.022sec
0-70mph 3.425sec
0-80mph 3.847sec
0-90mph 4.477sec
0-100mph 4.967sec
0-110mph 5.525sec
0-120mph 6.147sec
0-130mph 6.948sec
0-140mph 7.797sec
0-150mph 8.821sec

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FFS Matty, how much proof do you need to substantiate those figures?!?!?

I could point you to many sites, including the MLR where they are quoted as bonafide Santa Pod timing times, along with similar results from top speed challanges and The ten of the best competetion.

The car is road legal and must be to compete in the UK Time Attack in which Simon is doing very well, again maybe a slight hint as to the handling ability of the car.

I know Simon, and I went in his last car which was ballistic - this new one is even faster. Naturally Ive never been in a Veyron so have no comparison other than the figures, although can you prove - other than claimed figures, that the Veyron is that quick? Cant say Ive ever heard of one screaming up Santa pod to prove figures???

Admittedly though, the Mitsi is a highly modified car, and the Veyron is "std", but in this case, I think "std" just means modified in the factory. Remember though, the Evo is a Modified everyday, 2.0 car, with Tax and MOT, the Veyron a massive engined, high priced, and highly exclusive supercar.

Maybe you can find some actual figures from the Veyron (not just claimed figures) from everyday people who drive them to you can back this disscussion up tease

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Maybe that will put an end to all the bickering about a super car (Without doubt)....... ?

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GWR are fully substantiated figures, a bit more then a few afilliates Stuy...

Dont know how you are trying to say the Veyron only has "claimed" figures... The testing will have been ten times more rigorous then these "claimed" (and yes, THEY ARE CLAIMED, by AFILLIATES, and NOT PROVEN by an independent third party or official motoring organisation).

You go and find me an article which "doubts" the trueness of the Veyron's figures?

You won't find many articles for the Evo anyway, because quite simply, until they are substantiated by official and independent motoring and record bodies, then nobody really gives one about what times they claim to be hitting...

And since you say you "know" the guy, like you are going to be unbiased. Just like the Rover 25TD that was mentioned on here once where the guy claimed to have a 0-60 time of 6.3 seconds, but didnt really have any proof, and you yourself doubted it!

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Originally Posted by MattyC
GWR are fully substantiated figures, a bit more then a few afilliates Stuy...

Dont know how you are trying to say the Veyron only has "claimed" figures... The testing will have been ten times more rigorous then these "claimed" (and yes, THEY ARE CLAIMED, by AFILLIATES, and NOT PROVEN by an independent third party or official motoring organisation).

You go and find me an article which "doubts" the trueness of the Veyron's figures?

You won't find many articles for the Evo anyway, because quite simply, until they are substantiated by official and independent motoring and record bodies, then nobody really gives one about what times they claim to be hitting...

And since you say you "know" the guy, like you are going to be unbiased. Just like the Rover 25TD that was mentioned on here once where the guy claimed to have a 0-60 time of 6.3 seconds, but didnt really have any proof, and you yourself doubted it!

tease


just face it we are right, the evo is faster in parts than the veyron tease


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Point me to verified proof of such records and i will "face it".

All this shit people have been spouting about the Veyron (its only good in a straight line and shit for driving on a track and its records are all untrue and the likes of GWR are not to be trusted etc) just makes me laugh at how much you all want this Evo to be superior to it.

At the end of the day, the Veyron is what it is through millions of pounds worth of research and years of development, its proved it to more important people and organizations then the likes of us and claiming that the figures it has had INDEPENDENTLY VERIFIED are not true and that it wont be any good on a track is pretty much pathetic.

My simple questioning of the legitimacy of the figures posted for an Evo which has not yet recieved "real" independent verification or even apparaisel is quite fair I think.

I don't believe everything I hear, I also dont believe it just because other people do and say it must be true for whatever reason. I believe what is proven, and if it can't be proven to myself, if its proven to an independent and unbiased party.

Which i think is quite responisble and at the end of the day, fair enough.

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So will you only be happy, and accept the ND Evo figures when its tested by the same people who tested the Veyron?

Im not saying, nor have I said the Veyron isnt as good as the ND Evo, but on paper it is quicker.

Thing with the Veyron is, as you already said, its have millions spent on it through its development etc, where as the ND Evo is modified, and still being developed, meaning its very rarely recorded at the same performance level more than once or twice due to improvements in its modifications.

With your view being the way it is Matty, its going to very difficult to settle this discussion, though you are the first person Ive seen on any of the BB's to actually question the figures whistle

Im also finding it hard to take you seriously ever since you said - regarding your car being off the road "it only harms the environment anyway" wink

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Lol, yeah that was a goodun Stuy, the hidden eco-warrior side of me coming out I spose grin

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Personaly i dont give a toss what the Vyron can do as it was built by the worlds best automotive engineers with an unlimited budget and costing a mere £10,000,000 per vehicle, where as the Evo has been modified by a small independant company and they have managed to beat the pefrormance figures of the worlds best automotive engineers.

Official figures dont matter when it comes to the respect these chaps have earned, put it this way.... I bet them VW chaps are pretty pissed think

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Tbh Scooby, I doubt the VW bods will have noticed, they will be more interested in competing with other mass market manuafacturer's like Ferrari etc...

Yes they certainly gain a lot of respect, thats for sure.

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Here's another car that people 'lie' about

0-60 in 2.8

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=003&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=130056300705&rd=1&rd=1

There are MANY cars that can do similar speeds


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