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The editor of Redline doesnt really compare with Gordon Murray either way... Oh yeah, and redline arnt biased are they? Hmmmm yeah sure. WHereas if anything, Gordon Murray is biased against the Veyron.

And it was Dazza who said the Veyron handles like shit. When it is anything BUT.

looking at the passionford topic it reminded me of the fastest road legal car in the country (or EX) that cally dragster thing, is this faster??

Matty,i think u shud concede that the evo is faster, figures can be falsified but why bother, weather it can do 0-150 in 9.5 seconds or 11 seconds it dont matter,its still awesome and great for publicity to all people. so they wouldnt lie. and altho the timing gear at santa pod may not be 100% accurate (altho its prob 99.99999%) there is video evidence on streetfire of it getting to 150MPH in 1/4 mile after just 9.5 seconds. faster than a veyron and still road legal.

Tell me matty, what IS the fastest accelerating road legal car in the world?? cos i bet its not the veyron in the guiness book of records. fastest Production car maybe, but fastest CAR will be a modified car i bet

and to add: the word of the redline editor means nothing to me,yes the veyron is awesome and that george bloke tells that it is even tho he really wanted to hate it, but stick that george in the ND evo and see what he says about that

Couldnt be bothered reading your full responce but when I say it handles like shit, obviously it doesnt but were talking about a 2ton car thats very long - As good as the Veyron is, I bet money that there is alot better than it around a track when it comes to the twisties.

The Veyron was never in mind when the Evo was built, it was you that mentiond that. While were on this topic, I know of kitcars that will do 0 - 60 quicker than a Veyron - Your right when you say it pisses on everything STANDARD, but modified car's it doesnt other than the rediculas top end speed.

Why is one persons opinion (Gordon Murray) so vital to what you think?

All in all, it was not me that brought the Veyron up it was you. Stating that it CANT do the speeds its just recorded because the Veyron is better LOL!

Ahem I think you need to re-read the first post, you bought the Veyron into it Dazza.

And if you dont know who Gordon Murray is fair enough, but does the McLaren F1 (yes that car that held the world top speed record for over a decade) ring any bells?

Plus I actuaslly made reference to two people's opinions, who are not influenced by advertising and trying to sell copies of a magazine, one person who made the following comment regarding the Veyron prior to trying it:


The main purpose of that quote is to show how much dislike he had for the Veyron prior to its inception. And boy did his opinion change when he drove it and found out that the Veyron was not just for speed, but also built for "driving". Also, it goes to prove that putting as much speed and acceleration out of a car like an Evo it pretty pointless, it will never be a drivers car and certainly never be comfortable to drive on a daily basis, unlike a certain machine called the Veyron.

how can you slate a car you have never seen....



dazza posted this to show the speed of a 1 off evo which was made from a 4 door evo shell into a 2 door 800plus bhp Drag, track and top speed car. the owner built it to the best of his ability with 1 off touches.

as said in dazza's statment he only mentioned the veyron due to it being the fastest PRODUCTION car.

the next thing you will be saying that the most powerful road legal car is not an old Vauxhall

Im still awaiting proof of these claims... substantiated by more then an affiliated magazine or dragstrip...

Its just my opinion that I personally don't believe this car claims... why? Quite simply because there is no proof other then being backed up by companies who have money and notorioty to gain from it.

Maybe I am wrong for not believing everything I read in magazines and papers... but then there is a lot of bs claimed these days, so I believe I am right to await independently verified evidence before I jump on the bandwagon and accept all that is put in front of me.

So why did they bother there arse dragging it with timing gear?

Going off your views my Fiesta will do a 1/4 in 12 seconds at 170mph

Erm actually thats your view Dazza... You're one of the people that believe's everything printed in a newspaper/magazine.

Im the one thats been here questioning the legitimacy of these claims throughout this thread.

And yes, good question, why did they bother if they are not going to make it an official time with an official body? Why bother building a car that can supposedly do these speeds and not have an unaffiliated and independent 3rd party verify these times???

there seems to be no telling u matty. Lets get off the veyron subject as we know its fast and has all the PROOF,i'd actually like to [censored] the veyron for having a mahoosive engine yet still only making just under 1000BHP. what size is the veyron engine,8 litres?

as for the evo the times have been done using the timing gear (there prob is a 3rd party,the timing company,DATRON) are u just not willing to accept the veyron isnt the fastest accelerating car?? if the claimed speeds were .1 seconds slower accross the board would u believe it then?

No I wouldnt Scoop, cos as I say, I have yet to see any real proof other then an affiliated magazine article...

lol when will this end?

Have you actually seen/read/touched the PROOF that the Veyron has? Because thats how petty your getting.

Oh by the way Dazza, glad you could come back into this convo lol, cos theres an article in one of the papers today, apparently the next Fiesta ST is gonna be 620bhp with a top speed rumored to be in the 230mph region.

Oh an its 0-60 in 1.9 seconds...

Not that you would believe an article printed by the media with no real proof to back it up though.

here's a vid of it in action http://www.norrisdesigns.com/videos/redline-santa-pod.wmv

But you fail to realise, what you have just said is a complete lie whereas the Evo is real - It looks like you'll only believe this when the two have a race.

There any MANY things quicker than the Veyron, just not in standard form. I wish Stuymac could get online to confirm my views

Dont worry Dazza, I know there are loads of cars faster then the Veyron, not only in acceleration, but also at top end. There are some real beasts in the US, but the whole point is, none of them are road legal and therefore nobody ever bothers to compare them with a fully road legal car for performance figures.

Even if something as small as the tyres being illegal for road use so they have to change them to use the car on the road, and therefore comprimise performance, then its still not road legal at test times.

And I still dont automatically believe everything that is printed in the newspapers and magazines and with good reason - media moguls like Murdoch need to spout crap to sell newspapers and magazines, all stories are exaggerated and overplayed.

The only news/media corporation in the world that I have any sort of trust in is the BBC, and whilst even they are not 100% squeeky clean, they have no financial intrests, bias's or anything to gain (ie. they dont have to sell papers or advertising space) from making up bs. I mean, they even critisize themselves they are that impartial.

I think this could go on forever, you believe everything you read no matter how contraversial the evidence/weak the evidence is. I on the other hand believe very little until I am shown impartial evidence from sources that have absolutely nothing to gain over-sensationalising something.

And a video doesnt actually prove anything either I am afraid as video's have been getting "edited" since the advent of visual recording, the same a photographs. And I believe it even less, when its from the party making the claim.

Just my thoughts and opinions. Its clear you dont agree, but I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this matter.