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#131441 - 17th Dec 2004 11:43am Bigger Engine ?
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hi finally got permission off the parents to put a bigger engine in and i am lookin at a 1.4 or 1.6 cvh wat u guys think but i am not sure wat work is goin to need doin to allow it to work will the engines just slot rite in if not any ideas wat work needs doin ???

thx for the help!!
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#131442 - 17th Dec 2004 11:50am Re: Bigger Engine ?
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ok i'm not personally an expert on engines etc so cant help there, but have you looked at how much you could sell your car for and buy one with a bigger engine? Probly saves a lot of hassle and that and u cud get like an old 1.6 XR2 fezzer, ther sweet as!

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#131443 - 17th Dec 2004 11:52am Re: Bigger Engine ?
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A CVH should drop straight in smile

Unlike the Zetec lumps theres no need to modify looms or fit an ECU etc as they run on carbs. Should just be a case of changing Engine, gearbox, exhaust, driveshafts, brakes and struts.

Weekends work tops smile
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#131444 - 17th Dec 2004 11:54am Re: Bigger Engine ?
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weekends work for you stuy....lifetimes work for me! lmao. good look gettin your new engine in dude :go: :go:

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#131445 - 17th Dec 2004 11:59am Re: Bigger Engine ?
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Lol, the CVH's are sooooo easy to work on smile

I took the engine out of my XR2 to do the crankshaft oil seal (Gearbox side) and refitted it one evening in the summer smile
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#131446 - 17th Dec 2004 12:49pm Re: Bigger Engine ?
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CVH's are good for power gains, but are showing their age a little in terms of reliability

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#131447 - 17th Dec 2004 12:51pm Re: Bigger Engine ?
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If both engines are CVH then it wont be a problem Sted, straight swap on the zorst system, engine, gearbox etc

Ya might get away with usin the brakes you got now for a while if ya wanna save a bit of money, but eventually you'll need bigger and better, so look into gettin some bigger wheels too so they'll fit in

You want the power, but you also need the ability to stop with it.

Had any quotes from anywhere on a price for doin the job?

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#131448 - 17th Dec 2004 5:30pm Re: Bigger Engine ?
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Get the 1.6Si mk 3 fezzie mate, or if it is cheaper just buy the car and use that. If its n e thin like escorts the brakes will be ok even by ford standard.Can u believe the 1.8Si escort has the same brakes as the carbd 1.3 . Only the Gti has larger diameter and rear discs. I think the fezzie Si engine is the same zetec as the mk6 escort 1600 so itll be Injection(god im dumb,forget i wrote that), it is injection thats 4 sure, it even says S(i) go for that matey
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#131449 - 17th Dec 2004 6:20pm Re: Bigger Engine ?
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hi thx guys does anyone know a good place that would do all the work and does anyone know how much it is goin to cost to fit all the stuff???
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#131450 - 17th Dec 2004 6:40pm Re: Bigger Engine ?
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Sted, Go for a 1600cc CVH, Engine, Gearbox, Driveshafts, Hub's, Struts, Front brakes, Full Exhaust and Carb's mate, if you got one from a 1.6 s Fiesta MK3 the whole lot simply drops into place, Very easy to do (Watch ya dont trap a finger or two smack )

Once in and running you then want a four branch exhaust manifiold with a straight through 3" pipe and a set of Twin Webber 40's with intake manifold and a hi-lift Kent Camshaft, Now that would seriously move, probably leave a RS fiesta standing.

I have done a similar conversion to a escort many moons ago and it was a flying machine....

Best shop about scrap yards for a cheap engine/box ect and then speak to dazza and some other members about where you can get it fitted cheap.

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#131451 - 18th Dec 2004 2:32pm Re: Bigger Engine ?
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will he need the fuel tank and pump changing? the HCS engines suck the petrol from the tank where as the larger capacity engines have pumps in the tanks dont they? or am i just being blonde :rolleyes:

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#131452 - 18th Dec 2004 2:53pm Re: Bigger Engine ?
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It depends on the CVH engine, some have a mechanical pump driven from the camshaft and others do have an electronic fuel pump, the doner engine would have to be checked prior to fitting.

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#131453 - 18th Dec 2004 10:16pm Re: Bigger Engine ?
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Havnt bothered reading any one elses posts but do what i wanted 2 do -

Convert to an Xr2 1.6 w/ Twin webbers - I dont know if the guy still works for Kerr Chan but when he did he's got a burgandy with this engine in and it sounds nice!
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#131454 - 19th Dec 2004 12:24am Re: Bigger Engine ?
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Get a Zetec from a newer Ford. Then pay someone to position and re-mount the engine and gearbox if it doesn't already go in. Would the mounts be different on the Fiesta?
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#131455 - 19th Dec 2004 1:30pm Re: Bigger Engine ?
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newer zetec engines are the other way round i.e the inlet manifold is at the front of the engine bay as apposed to the back which is where they are on the earlier zetecs like mine and daz's.

i think thats right anyway?

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