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#1016564 - 8th Aug 2016 11:23am An interesting picture
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This fine aerial photo was used as the frontispiece of the book "Outline plan for the County Borough of Birkenhead". This was commissioned by the Council and published in 1947. More of this book in a separate post.
There are many features in this photo which only the oldest of codgers will recognise; for instance, Town station in the bottom left corner. The tunnel entrance looks complete, but appears to have some curved seating at the left in preparation for the opening.
My question is: what's missing from the picture?

I know I've posted this before, but years ago. I'd ask any of the old codgers who remember it, not to give the answer; give the youngsters a chance.


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#1016569 - 8th Aug 2016 12:32pm Re: An interesting picture [Re: chriskay]
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Used to Enjoy the History forum, reason for joining. But now it seems you need to be a Wiki-Plus member to see attachments & pictures... thumbsdown

Admin Note : This is to protect the work and content of our members whom have contributed so much to the history forum. The work from our members has been taken and renamed and no credit given. Your membership subscription also goes towards keeping our forums online.


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#1016570 - 8th Aug 2016 12:38pm Re: An interesting picture [Re: OxtonHill]
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Originally Posted By: OxtonHill
Used to Enjoy the History forum, reason for joining. But now it seems you need to be a Wiki-Plus member to see attachments & pictures... thumbsdown


Yes, sadly, that's the case but 15 a year isn't much to pay to help keep the site viable.
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#1016591 - 8th Aug 2016 7:44pm Re: An interesting picture [Re: chriskay]
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I looks like there is no Pacific rd ventilation shaft
You can see the entrance to Morpeth dock which is the location of the shaft
Looking at the picture it is quit clear what is no longer there today

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#1016602 - 8th Aug 2016 9:05pm Re: An interesting picture [Re: mikeeb]
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Originally Posted By: mikeeb
I looks like there is no Pacific rd ventilation shaft
You can see the entrance to Morpeth dock which is the location of the shaft
Looking at the picture it is quit clear what is no longer there today
Well done, fellow youngster laugh
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#1016610 - 8th Aug 2016 10:30pm Re: An interesting picture [Re: mikeeb]
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Originally Posted By: mikeeb
I looks like there is no Pacific rd ventilation shaft
You can see the entrance to Morpeth dock which is the location of the shaft
Looking at the picture it is quit clear what is no longer there today


Well spotted. You might want to revise that last sentence; the whole point is that it is there today. wink
Although it's at the bottom of Pacific Rd., it's normally called the Woodside shaft.
If you enlarge the picture you can see what looks like a crane jib on the site; maybe they've just started construction.
This is an example of the last minute panic when it was realised that more ventilation, at a cost of over an extra 2 million, was needed.
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#1016611 - 8th Aug 2016 10:39pm Re: An interesting picture [Re: chriskay]
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We know where and what you were referring too, Mikeeb smile thumbsup
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#1016621 - 9th Aug 2016 10:12am Re: An interesting picture [Re: OxtonHill]
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Originally Posted By: OxtonHill
Used to Enjoy the History forum, reason for joining. But now it seems you need to be a Wiki-Plus member to see attachments & pictures... thumbsdown


You might find said picture here:

https://historicengland.org.uk/images-books/archive/collections/aerial-photos/

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/nostalgia/amazing-historic-pictures-taken-above-7278953

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#1016627 - 9th Aug 2016 1:53pm Re: An interesting picture [Re: RUDEBOX]
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Well done, fellow youngster laugh


I haven't been called that in a long time grin

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#1016628 - 9th Aug 2016 2:00pm Re: An interesting picture [Re: chriskay]
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Originally Posted By: chriskay
This is an example of the last minute panic when it was realised that more ventilation, at a cost of over an extra 2 million, was needed.


When was that picture taken?

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#1016634 - 9th Aug 2016 3:55pm Re: An interesting picture [Re: mikeeb]
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Originally Posted By: mikeeb
Originally Posted By: chriskay
This is an example of the last minute panic when it was realised that more ventilation, at a cost of over an extra 2 million, was needed.


When was that picture taken?


I don't know. I've no idea how long it took to build the Woodside ventilation shaft, but as far as I know, the tunnel wasn't opened before it was functioning. It's odd that seating appears to have been installed at the entrance; I wouldn't have expected that unless opening was to be soon after.
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#1016643 - 9th Aug 2016 5:21pm Re: An interesting picture [Re: chriskay]
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That picture appears to be 1934
Here it is from Britain from above, titled: Preparations for the opening of the Queensway Tunnel, Hamilton Square and environs, Birkenhead, 1934
http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/epw045191
If you zoom in on the Woodside shaft location you can clearly make out a crane
Maybe the main shaft was not needed based on 1934 traffic levels
As the estimated traffic built up over years the shaft would be finished
I don't know

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#1016649 - 9th Aug 2016 5:48pm Re: An interesting picture [Re: mikeeb]
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Well found: I'd looked on Britain from Above but not found it. According to the annotation, the picture was taken in July 1934 and the tunnel was opened on 18 July, so it was opened before the Woodside shaft was built, as you suggest.
I have the name of a contact in Merseytravel who shoud be able to give more info. but she's away until 22 nd. of August.
Another question arises from the picture; why the big loop from the entrance, via Sidney St., to the Woodside shaft?


Edited by chriskay (9th Aug 2016 5:58pm)
Edit Reason: Added last paragraph.
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#1016652 - 9th Aug 2016 5:58pm Re: An interesting picture [Re: chriskay]
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Here is another one from July 1934 over the Liverpool shafts
You can see North John st and New Quay shafts completed but Georges dock shaft, although well underway and further along than the Woodside shaft, it is not complete and a lot of work still needed before it is operational
http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/epw045194
This afterthought of more ventilation seems to have not affected the opening of the tunnel
Again I don't know, just guessing

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#1016655 - 9th Aug 2016 6:15pm Re: An interesting picture [Re: mikeeb]
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In the last pic. you can see the tram circles between the Three Graces and the pier head, also an Overhead train, just left of the Liver Building.
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