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Its all very well announcing your support for Corbyn, but how many of you actually know him or work with him?

You're just basing your opinions upon what you've seen in the papers or on TV.

He was successful because he was the only alternative to the New Labour lot who stood for party leader. Just because he won that doesn't mean he's a good leader, and has shown this to be the case over the past couple of months.

He has a habit of blanking and ignoring people when he doesn't like what they have to say, or if he doesn't get his own way. That is no way for a party leader to behave, nor a potential world leader if he ever became PM.

face it, he's Labour's "Boaty McBoatface".


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A political leader and a company/team leader are completely different entities.

Looking through UK history most of the party leaders have not been the most enigmatic or charismatic of people.

The support Corbyn has got is remarkable, surely that is the sign of a leader. The labour party has the largest membership of any political party in the UK, when Corbyn came it had the highest rise of any political party in the UK.


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Sixty thousand Tories joining The Labour Party to keep Jeremy Corbyn as leader, is genious forward thinking in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by dustymclean
Sixty thousand Tories joining The Labour Party to keep Jeremy Corbyn as leader, is genious forward thinking in my opinion.


Lying and cheating - shows their true morality, their desperation and their obvious fear that they will be beaten. 60,000 is a pittance anyway, Corbyn will win without that.

Many Tories are more left than some of the Labour MPs so in some ways it would be a good swap.

Great Rally in Liverpool today, about 400 there when I first arrived ahead of time, this swelled to over 1000 before 1230. By the time of the march to the second location I wouldn't be surprised if it exceeded 2000 (I'll check my footage). Sound system didn't hack it unfortunately so quite a lot meandered away before the end.


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I am sure he will win what is "LEFT" of the party. A labour Government is a distant dream. I remember partying when Blair got in and took the country for a ride.They are like a box of mixed chocolates without the descriptive lid. A pig in a poke! unless you particuly dislike one they are all going to turn into S---E.

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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper

Lying and cheating - shows their true morality


What arrant nonsense. The Labour party foolishly allowed it to happen. It was entirely moral for those who acted thus to reduce the possibility of a Labour government by helping to elect someone totally unsuited to be a leader of a tiddly-winks team, let alone a major political party.


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Lying and cheating - shows their true morality


What arrant nonsense. The Labour party foolishly allowed it to happen. It was entirely moral for those who acted thus to reduce the possibility of a Labour government by helping to elect someone totally unsuited to be a leader of a tiddly-winks team, let alone a major political party.


When you become a Labour Supporter you swear an allegiance the same as you do for any other political party - so what did the Labour Party do different?

The statement is "I support the aims and values of the Labour Party, I am not a supporter of any organisation opposed to it"

If you sign up knowing full well that is false then you are lying, cheating, have no morals and clearly don't believe in democracy.


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Lying and cheating - shows their true morality


What arrant nonsense. The Labour party foolishly allowed it to happen. It was entirely moral for those who acted thus to reduce the possibility of a Labour government by helping to elect someone totally unsuited to be a leader of a tiddly-winks team, let alone a major political party.


When you become a Labour Supporter you swear an allegiance the same as you do for any other political party - so what did the Labour Party do different?

The statement is "I support the aims and values of the Labour Party, I am not a supporter of any organisation opposed to it"

If you sign up knowing full well that is false then you are lying, cheating, have no morals and clearly don't believe in democracy.


Is it possible that you may, one day, join us in the real world?


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Believe it or not, there are a lot of decent people around. Not everyone is a lying cheating Tory.


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It certainly shows the character of some leading Tories, Oops, granny said I've not to mention them, but what an odious bunch they are they have no loyalty to each other,self first, so how could they possibly have any empathy for the ordinary person? dog eat dog politics, rolling in the gutter for all to see.

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Originally Posted by dustymclean
Sixty thousand Tories joining The Labour Party to keep Jeremy Corbyn as leader, is genious forward thinking in my opinion.


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It is impossible to know precisely which proportion of the new members have joined to back him or oust him, as some will have refused to say.


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It was the message, not the messenger that got Jeremy Corbyn elected as Labour Party leader (the other candidates obviously not striking the right chord with the voters)
Instead of the mps getting right behind him right from the start (against the democratic vote of ordinary labour voters)there's been a number of mps and the media sniping away at him finally using the pathetic excuse he didn't do enough for the remain side (considering more labour voted to stay than David Cameron got from the tories.
If it comes to a labour leadership contest I'd assume that since the tories say they'd want him to be the leader (because their propaganda says it will make the labour party weaker - not the fact they're scared stiff because of their cuts and austerity program he could possibly win the next election on a lot of what he stands for) they'd encourage their supporters to try to get in on the vote and vote for Corbyn.
In reality they'd vote for him to go as there is likely to be more cuts and austerity to come
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George Osborne has already marked himself out as the biggest seller of the country's silver since the time of Margaret Thatcher.

Since becoming Chancellor, he has flogged at least £37.7 billion of state assets - with another £20 billion reportedly up for grabs this year.

"The Government are privatising the profits of the Land Registry – which made a surplus of £100 million in 2012/13 – whilst retaining the risk.

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