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A new scheme is going to be introduced with a third bin in Wirral for food waste.

The food bin will be collected every week, however it is undecided yet as to whether the Green bin will be collected two-weekly or three-weekly. Presumably the Grey bin periodicity will also be under revue.

It is acknowledged that Wirral's recycling rate has dropped because of the charge for Brown bin collection. The fix would seem obvious to most people - but not Wirral council!

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I think its a good idea for those living alone or not generating too much waste. I could safely leave my green coloured bin for six weeks before it was full.

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Originally Posted by Gibbo
I think its a good idea for those living alone or not generating too much waste. I could safely leave my green coloured bin for six weeks before it was full.


Yes for a singly its not difficult at all, but unfortunately for many families it is already a struggle.

It seems obvious to me that bin collections should be related to the number of people in the household - I always thought that poll tax was a fairer system but the media decided differently.


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I think it's a good idea.I have a small bin with a lid that I keep by the sink for waste food,got it for the reason my dog is a food thief & could get in the kitchen bin,so that would not be a problem for me plus the fact the food waste would be collected every week which would be better in the hot summer months when the green bin can become smelly & maggots appear


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I can remember when we had a little galvanized bin for food waste.
A man came round and collected it for pig swill.

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The probability is that the recyclable waste will continue fortnightly and household waste will move to three weekly or maybe even monthly, this would not be for our benefit just solely to balance the cost of refuse collection, the argument being that there would be a lot less household waste in the green bin, or so the muppets at the council will say to justify the cut in collections.

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While they say 40% of the waste is food, this is by weight not by volume so it will make little difference to how much extra space will be released.

I also doubt 40% is an average, many people waste a lot less than that so to obtain that figure there would need to many over 40% as well.


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When you are living in an old terraced property where are you supposed to be stowing all these bins? Around here a lot of the residents put them out in the entry but that means magpies, rats and loads of rubbish at the back. It's a nightmare.


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Most of our waste is packaging material, much of it unnecessary.

Hopefully three weekly collections will feed back to the supermarkets who are responsible for most of it. A 'Low packaging' supermarket would make excellent sense to me, not only because it relieves the bin problem, but because it would greatly reduce the cost of the item.

It is by no means unusual for the packaging to be more expensive than the items they are used for.

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Originally Posted by Excoriator
Most of our waste is packaging material, much of it unnecessary.


Larger companies are under various regulations and guidelines to reduce packaging especially non-recyclable packaging, that's why cornflake packets are no longer as good as they were to make gaskets or pack out door hinges.

Most companies tell you what wonderful things they have do to reduce packing to try and take the praise but its not until regulations were brought in that forced their hand. Strangely, reducing the cost of packaging didn't seem to be a priority?

An unwanted by-product of regulation is manufacturers do the bare minimum and hold back on known improvements they can make in case new regulations ask for even more savings in the future (always keep some in reserve just in case culture).


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Perhaps banning the sale of bottled water in supermarkets would be a good start for regulation. It is quite unnecessary, and - being unchlorinated - more likely to contain harmful bacteria than what comes through your tap.

It plays on the irrational fears of gullible folk to extract cash from them. And it is HEAVY, and likely to cause more damage to your back in lugging it about than any believed benefits it may confer.

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Originally Posted by Excoriator
And it is HEAVY, and likely to cause more damage to your back in lugging it about than any believed benefits it may confer.


You're not suggesting people go out and about without carrying water?


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I think this could be good if everybody sticks to it and does it right. It is apparently going to be made into fuel for buses etc which is better for environment. That's the food waste I mean. I'm pretty hot on my recycling and think the grey bin has been a success and this could be too but it does have to be done by everybody to work, would hate food all over roads etc. Its going to be a small bin in kitchen then a bigger one with lock to put it in. It won't be as big as grey and green ones I think. This would free up room in green and as long as no food in would be OK every 3 weeks. It's not a done deal yet as according to interview a lady gave on radio they still looking into it.

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I don't waste much food, in fact if I want to buy something extra-smelly e.g. smoked mackerel I'll do it shortly before the green bin collection is due! I used to know a woman who bagged her food leftovers and put them in the freezer, bringing them out just before bin day. Careful labelling would be essential in such a scenario, I guess! The aspect of this idea that squicks me out is disposal of things with hygiene issues like disposable nappies, incontinence pads etc. They are going to be sooo ripe, if the green bin collection goes to three weeks... eugh...

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If this comes into force, i will flush any food waste, they can catch it at the other end.

I wonder how long it is before big fines for getting it wrong. And then i feel for the old people out there who just get confused.

Freezing the old chicken carcass before bin day is more practical than you think, stops the maggots.


I just remember when we used to think we were doing the council a favour when the brown bins came along, only for it to be taken away or charging for it. You just don't know where you are with the council.

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