WikiWirral Online with you since 2003, fantastic.
Forum Stats
12226 Members
65 Forums
72758 Topics
980632 Posts
51 posts in the last 24hrs
Max Online: 7831 @ 8th Apr 2013 4:18pm
Who's Online - Click Me
85 registered (11kendo, 15 invisible), 1769 Guests and 173 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


(Views 7days)This Weeks Most Read
Doris is on her way 1329
vet fees 439
Internet Explorer Not Working 413
Is This ART ? 410
Dangerous Tumble Dryers 359
Chef's knife. 357
roofers 258
Wirral Bus Review 255
Aerial engineer 232
TV wall mount wanted. 178
New General Forums
Nigel Farage speaks at the CPAC.
by snowhite
24th Feb 2017 6:28pm
Is This ART ?
by granny
23rd Feb 2017 9:56am
Wirral track renewal
by snowhite
22nd Feb 2017 2:42pm
Ice in the 1800's
by granny
21st Feb 2017 9:47pm
New Wirral History
Seeking old pictures of Egerton Street area, Birkenhead
by yoller
19th Feb 2017 7:53pm
TS Indefatigable
by granny
18th Feb 2017 3:32pm
RIP : Chris Kay
by granny
31st Aug 2016 9:25am
Children's home on the Overchurch
by xleahx
26th Apr 2011 7:01pm
423 Archers, Wirral Mark Rake, Wirral, Merseyside
by derekdwc
13th Sep 2009 10:50pm
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
Birkenhead Transport Museum 24th Feb 2017
fireworks on the Mersey last night
Topic Replies
St Gabriel's Convent, Liverpool
by diggingdeeper
6 minutes 21 seconds ago
What song are you listening to?
by Dilly
26 minutes 34 seconds ago
Patio work
by steamfan
Today at 05:51 PM
USB to wall socket
by venice
Today at 05:06 PM
Tranmere Rovers
by spinner1
Today at 02:20 PM
2x Brit Floyd tickets 3rd March City entrance
by ambersmum
Today at 10:46 AM
Removal of Shed Timber
by fish5133
Yesterday at 10:45 PM
Is This ART ?
by Greenwood
Yesterday at 07:06 PM
Doris is on her way
by diggingdeeper
Yesterday at 06:06 PM
February
M Tu W Th F Sa Su
1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28
Recent Posts : What's On ?
Lion Salt Works/Weaver Hall Museum
by venice
19th Feb 2017 12:19pm
Wirral TUC Meeting re Update on Wallasey CLP Suspe
by RUDEBOX
13th Feb 2017 8:50pm
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#1002264 - 23rd Feb 2016 8:54am Has Windows 10 basically settled?
venice Offline

Forum Master

Registered: 21st Jul 2011
Posts: 2569
Loc: Wirral
I keep getting notice boxes, to change to Windows 10. I ignore them because Im an IT wimp , but perhaps I should do it before they decide to start charging for it - so , do people think the vast majority of any gliches or teething troubles it had, have been resolved ? Any ideas as to how much longer it will be free?

Top
Digital Wirral : Advertising
Click me for more Information......

* * * Julie : LED Lights Supplied and Fitted Free * * *
Now Advertise with WikiWirral.
WikiWirral stats 35,000 Page Views a Day +500 Search Engines.. Click Me
#1002270 - 23rd Feb 2016 9:30am Re: Has Windows 10 basically settled? [Re: venice]
Habdab Online   content
Addict

Registered: 12th Jun 2011
Posts: 223
Loc: Wallasey
If Windows 10 was supplied by any other company, it would be classed as Spyware. It "Phones Home" in over 30 different ways, passing your private data to Microsoft's servers. If you're comfortable with that, then go ahead, install it. If like me you prefer to keep your data and surfing habits private, then you might want to read the following link..... http://www.howtogeek.com/224616/30-ways-windows-10-phones-home/

Also if you decide to install it, you can do a few other things to make it more like you want it. see here.... http://www.howtogeek.com/t/windows10/

If you decide you don't want the Windows 10 update at all, you can stop that annoying icon in the system tray and reclaim 3GB of you hard drive space by uninstalling windows update KB3035583 then hiding the update then removing GWX.exe from the Windows System 32 folder.

If you're not comfortable doing that, then follow instructions here .... http://www.howtogeek.com/228551/how-to-s...automatically/.
Good luck

Top
#1002274 - 23rd Feb 2016 10:20am Re: Has Windows 10 basically settled? [Re: venice]
j_demo Online   Know_it_all
Forum Addict

Registered: 4th Nov 2011
Posts: 1855
Loc: Wallasey/New Brighton
Ive had it for a few months now and its gotten much better over time. My computer was previously W7 and i've noticed since upgrading to W10 that its got much quicker load times.

Plus habdab saying it gives your private data to MS, behave, it feeds back any errors or glitches that it may encounter behind the scenes so they can fix them in a patch. I'm not sure if your "personal data" (bank stuff or facebook password) is any care or concern to microsoft's servers...

Top
#1002276 - 23rd Feb 2016 10:20am Re: Has Windows 10 basically settled? [Re: venice]
venice Offline

Forum Master

Registered: 21st Jul 2011
Posts: 2569
Loc: Wirral
Thank you Habdab - it looks like its quite invasive even to my IT shy eye. Ive only had a chance so far to flick through the links you sent , so superficially , my impression is that windows 10 is being downloaded in parts, regardless ? Is that right?It also says the reason is 'incase I want to change to it' Does that mean that I can remain with my windows 7 with no problems if I want to?

Top
#1002284 - 23rd Feb 2016 11:09am Re: Has Windows 10 basically settled? [Re: venice]
Kev30x Offline
Old Hand

Registered: 1st Mar 2010
Posts: 394
Loc: Tranmere
Stick with Windows 7! Windows 10 is full of Permanent spyware as Habdad said!

Its the most intrusive Version of windows yet!

No wonder Microsoft are are giving it away for free to Windows 7/8 and hounding everyone to upgrade all the time!

God knows what they are upto with everyones private information, but im sure they are making a few quid from selling info for starters.

Just follow Habdads advice or if that is too much messing around then download "GWX CONTROL PANEL" and disable the Windows 10 pestering update "Begging" reminders! CLICKY


Edited by Kev30x (23rd Feb 2016 11:13am)

Top
#1002286 - 23rd Feb 2016 11:26am Re: Has Windows 10 basically settled? [Re: j_demo]
Habdab Online   content
Addict

Registered: 12th Jun 2011
Posts: 223
Loc: Wallasey
Behave yourself! your bank account details might not be of interest to Microsoft, but your surfing habits certainly are, They tailor adds to suit your habits.
If you wish to sacrifice your privacy for a few seconds saved on boot up time, then go ahead. (More fool you).

Top
#1002288 - 23rd Feb 2016 11:41am Re: Has Windows 10 basically settled? [Re: Habdab]
Habdab Online   content
Addict

Registered: 12th Jun 2011
Posts: 223
Loc: Wallasey
Oh I forgot to mention earlier, this wonderful upgrade also shares YOUR WiFi password with any and all Outlook, Skype and Facebook contacts who also use Win 10.
Cool huh?
Any Tom Dick or Harry gets to use your WiFi for free.
Before anyone decides to contradict me, the "Service is called WiFI Sense.
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/07/28/windows-10-wifi-sharing/

Top
#1002289 - 23rd Feb 2016 11:41am Re: Has Windows 10 basically settled? [Re: venice]
Salmon Offline
Forum Addict

Registered: 8th Oct 2011
Posts: 1718
Loc: Wallasey
I have Win 10 for a good while now and it is great. Stop the ads here:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2975790/w...office-ads.html

Top
#1002291 - 23rd Feb 2016 12:01pm Re: Has Windows 10 basically settled? [Re: venice]
Habdab Online   content
Addict

Registered: 12th Jun 2011
Posts: 223
Loc: Wallasey
Venice, you can stay with Windows 7 for as long as you wish. You are NOT obliged to upgrade. Windows tactics are tantamount to bullying. If you follow the links I sent, you can stop that nagging icon in your task bar and prevent it from popping up again.

However.... The offer of a free upgrade runs out on the July 29th, 2016. If you wish to upgrade after that date, you'll be charged to do so.

Having said all I have about Windows 10, I have to say that basically it's a good operating system. (Apart from the Phone home tactics and a few other problems, like no choice about updates) There has been a service pack issued that fixes a lot of the teething troubles it first shipped with. Personally, If I was going to install it, I'd wait until July 28th 2016. By that time things should have improved.
In answer to your question about it being download in parts... it's a 3GB+ download that Microsoft download to your hard drive "In case" you might decide to upgrade. You get no choice over this (Another bullying tactic). Personally I'd sooner have the 3GB space on my HDD to do with as I please. I paid for that HDD space, not Microsoft!.

To be fair, if you do upgrade to Windows 10, you can roll back to Windows 7 fairly easily, but to be honest, a fresh install to a freshly formatted HDD works much better and with fewer problems than just an upgrade from WIn 7. so if you follow that route, you can't "Roll back". You could always make a disk image first though.

No matter what I say about it, it boils down to one thing and one thing only, personal choice. If it works for you.... Great! if you like more control over your OS, then not so great!
At the end of the day, it's your choice. but make sure you have ALL the facts fist.

Top
#1002296 - 23rd Feb 2016 12:26pm Re: Has Windows 10 basically settled? [Re: Salmon]
Habdab Online   content
Addict

Registered: 12th Jun 2011
Posts: 223
Loc: Wallasey
In Reply to Salmon,
If you close your eyes when you see the bogyman, does he go away?

Top
#1002302 - 23rd Feb 2016 2:20pm Re: Has Windows 10 basically settled? [Re: venice]
philmch Offline
Old Hand

Registered: 27th Dec 2007
Posts: 325
Loc: Wirral
I've got the "upgrade" version and it's absolutely fine. Far better than 8.1. Everything is working fast and smooth. Highly recommended.

Wrt WiFi Sense; note the line near the bottom "Realistically, the risks are small and yet to be proven". IE, it's just paranoid crap for the anti Win 10 brigade.

Top
#1002303 - 23rd Feb 2016 2:29pm Re: Has Windows 10 basically settled? [Re: venice]
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Guardian

Registered: 9th Jul 2008
Posts: 9795
Loc: Birkenhead
I'd love to know what malicious activities Microsoft are purported to get up to with the data they glean? There are something like 200 million installations of windows 10, that makes any individual pretty anonymous.

I now realise why so many people walk around with hoodies and sunglasses - just in case someone is tracking them.

Almost every website you go on you are tracked by google and various other companies. If you don't want to be seen on the internet, don't go on the internet, just like the real world (if you don't want to be seen visiting lilo lil, don't go there).

If you don't sign on to a microsoft account, things like wifi sense don't do anything. If you take the trouble to go through the security and privacy settings then very little information is leaked.

Microsoft have a European ruling on what data they are allowed to use and what they aren't, they are unlikely to breach that intentionally as they know they will end up with more restrictions put on them again.

Windows 7 is now less secure to malicious activity than Windows 10, microsoft are definitely one organisation that are not going to cause you harm compared to many others.
_________________________
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser. Socrates

Top
#1002307 - 23rd Feb 2016 3:03pm Re: Has Windows 10 basically settled? [Re: Habdab]
Salmon Offline
Forum Addict

Registered: 8th Oct 2011
Posts: 1718
Loc: Wallasey
Originally Posted By: Habdab
In Reply to Salmon,
If you close your eyes when you see the bogyman, does he go away?


Good News there is no such thing as the bogyman.

Top
#1002308 - 23rd Feb 2016 3:04pm Re: Has Windows 10 basically settled? [Re: Habdab]
Salmon Offline
Forum Addict

Registered: 8th Oct 2011
Posts: 1718
Loc: Wallasey
Originally Posted By: Habdab
Oh I forgot to mention earlier, this wonderful upgrade also shares YOUR WiFi password with any and all Outlook, Skype and Facebook contacts who also use Win 10.
Cool huh?
Any Tom Dick or Harry gets to use your WiFi for free.
Before anyone decides to contradict me, the "Service is called WiFI Sense.
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/07/28/windows-10-wifi-sharing/

This is WiFi Sense which is not on by default.

Top
#1002350 - 23rd Feb 2016 9:20pm Re: Has Windows 10 basically settled? [Re: venice]
venice Offline

Forum Master

Registered: 21st Jul 2011
Posts: 2569
Loc: Wirral
Thanks very much everyone . All sounds so complicated. Not to worry , I think on balance Ill wait till nearer the pay up time , re read all this and maybe have a go when my son in law is around to bail me out when I get stuck! My pc IS loading slowly, but I can live with that for now - sounds as if most of the gliches will be gone by the time they charge .

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >

Moderator:  Mark 
Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
St Gabriel's Convent, Liverpool
by diggingdeeper
Today at 05:58 PM
USB to wall socket
by venice
Today at 01:04 PM
Tranmere Rovers
by cools
Yesterday at 09:17 PM
Removal of Shed Timber
by Julie64
Yesterday at 01:31 PM
Wirral Bus Review
by Norton
24th Feb 2017 11:42am
For Sale & Free
Blaupunkt 32" tv
by jaylow
Yesterday at 03:04 PM
2 x Sum 41 tickets Manchester 25/02
by turnip
24th Feb 2017 7:47am
Sony Smartwatch 2
by Mike_Hoylake
23rd Feb 2017 9:25pm
Brother printer
by saltytom
23rd Feb 2017 11:02am
Mk6 Golf TDI 1.6
by Cjoshea
22nd Feb 2017 11:05pm
Featured Member
Registered: 15th Dec 2011
Posts: 1008
Newest Members
catchthepigeon_, Scoobyp1, Bradshawbatho, raybb, CliveK
12226 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
New Wirral Info
Removal of Shed Timber
by Julie64
Yesterday at 01:31 PM
Aerial engineer
by ponytail
23rd Feb 2017 6:01pm
roofers
by thisledous
23rd Feb 2017 4:44pm
Lion Salt Works/Weaver Hall Museum
by paxvobiscum
18th Feb 2017 9:19pm
Patio work
by steamfan
18th Feb 2017 3:45pm
News : New Topics
Wirral Bus Review
by Norton
24th Feb 2017 11:42am
Dangerous Tumble Dryers
by diggingdeeper
23rd Feb 2017 2:03pm
Doris is on her way
by granny
22nd Feb 2017 8:43pm
Hezballah
by venice
17th Feb 2017 11:15am
On-street parking charges dropped
by oldpm01
15th Feb 2017 9:10am
New Enthusiast Forums
St Gabriel's Convent, Liverpool
by diggingdeeper
Today at 05:58 PM
USB to wall socket
by venice
Today at 01:04 PM
Tranmere Rovers
by cools
Yesterday at 09:17 PM
Chef's knife.
by Beethoven
23rd Feb 2017 12:39pm
irish music entertainer for St Patrick's night
by kazaroo
22nd Feb 2017 3:07pm
(Views 24hrs)Trending Newest Topics
USB to wall socket 139
St Gabriel's Convent, Liverpool 14
Birkenhead Transport Museum 24th Feb 2017 7
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Sun 7:04am
Sunset Sun 5:45pm
Local Time Sun 9:56pm
WikiWirral Can . . . .
Advertising Click me
To Advertise with
Wikiwirral Click Me